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Friday, June 25, 2010

Covering With Polyspan

Some advice from Larry Davidson on using Polyspan:

STARLINE BY FAI MODEL SUPPLY SERVES FREE FLIGHT AEROMODELERS WORLDWIDE
Excerpts from Larry Davidson's article for Sam Speaks

"I can tell you that this is a great covering material..."

After seeing several ads for Polyspan, I decided to order a roll and try it out. I also ordered some of the analine dye that Sal Fruciano (owner of Starline) sells. So far, I only used the Polyspan on a 1/2a Country Boy free flight and the results are as follows:

The first thing to know is that this is a polyester material and impervious to water so don't try to shrink it with water. The Nitrate dope will shrink if fine and any wrinkles left can be taken out with a MonoKote iron.

I started on the stab first and proceeded to follow the brief instructions which came with the product. He recommends pre-doping the frame outlines in the usual method used for Japanese tissue or silkspan which is two coats of Nitrate Dope. I then cut out the Polyspan 1" larger than the outline of the stab and doped it with Nitrate Dope thinned 50% through the material. So far everything went well and the material went on easier than Japanese tissue. Naturally you try to put it on by getting it reasonably wrinkle-free. Then I cut the material flush with the framework with a NEW double edge razor blade. So far so good. I then applied the Polyspan on the top in the same manner and trimmed it leaving the usual 1/8" for overlapping. Then came the problem. The material does not want to be rolled over the edges in the usual doping down method. It kept trying to straighten out the overlap and no matter how hard I tried, it would not roll over.

I called Sal Fruciano and asked him for a remedy to the problem and he said that using a Monokote iron to crease the material should help. Well, he was right and the following was the method which worked great for me.

Before putting the dope on the edges to be rolled over, I used the Monokote iron and creased the edge as Sal suggested. Then I put the Nitrate Dope under the overlap and rolled it over with my fingers in the usual fashion. It will still try to come up and by running my fingers around the edges until the dope is almost dry to the touch, I then took the MonoKote iron set at about 325 degrees and rolled over the edges to stutter when I use the "M" word. That is because as many know I am a religious silk and dope man.

The next step was to brush some of the analine dyed Nitrate Dope on the bottom of the stab. It was difficult for me to believe that you could get the wrinkles out and make the covering tight with just putting the dope on. Well I can tell you that it tightened up great but I did not like the way the color came out on the bottom or the top. It was streaky and I did use a foam brush. Then I noticed that the top looked like the Chia-Pet that is advertised on television as it seemed to sprout fuzz and hair on the top. I wondered why this did not happen on the bottom and finally realized: IMPORTANT: There is an inside and outside to the covering. There is one side to the covering that is more glossy than the other and you MUST put the glossy side on the outside. On the roll that I used, the glossy side was on the inside of the roll and when placing a cut piece on the bench it would try to curl the edges up with the glossy side facing up.

I removed the top covering from the stab and put another piece on with the glossy side up. As I said before, I was not satisfied with the orange tinted dope finish which I had brushed in my usual fashion with a foam brush as it looked streaky and mottled. The answer was to spray the dyed dope on. This would not be necessary if you left the material white, which is the only way it is available. Don Reid, after seeing my Country Boy at the GGG decided to try Polyspan and then called me to say he had recovered his house including his wife, Cynthia. Obviously he was impressed with the Polyspan.

One of the members of our SAM 75 chapter, John Sullivan asked me for a piece of the Polyspan so he could experiment with the dying process and at our next meeting, he had produced the following results:

He felt the best way to dye the material was to use a powdered analine dye. You also may buy the liquid dye 10 parts of nitrate dope to 1 part of dye, however I found that with the orange dye, a 20 to 1 ratio worked great.

John says to mix a 2 oz jar of the powdered dye with one quart of methyl alcohol (methanol) and spray it on the material before covering the model, otherwise the dye will also color the rest of the wood of the frame work. You can also use the dye, both powder and liquid in nitrate thinner and spray this on Polyspan before covering the plane. If you use the powdered dye, be sure to use cheese cloth to filter the dyed thinner after mixing it thoroughly.

Because this plane had to be fuel proof as I use 40% nitro fuel in my Cox TD .049/.051, I continued with my customary finishing technique of spraying K&B Super Poxy over the two coats of nitrate dope. The fuselage came out fine, but the wing was a disaster. The Super Poxy would not fill the pores I the Polyspan on the bottom. I decided to spray one coat of butyrate dope on the top of the wing to fuel proof it. I assume that if I applied several more coats of the nitrate dope to really seal the Polyspan, the Super Poxy would have worked well.

I can tell you that this is a great covering material and I expect that on the next plane I use it on will work well with the techniques I learned on this plane. It really gives tremendous strength to the framework, probably as much as silk does and it surely is a great improvement in strength and puncture resistance over Japanese tissue and silkspan even though it is a little heavier.




Larry seen here with his Polyspan covered Pacer and the designer, Sal Taibi

And also from Don Typond

(Reprinted from Flying Models, December 1994)

Wouldn't it be nice if there were a covering material that's strong and stable and just about puncture-proof, and not any heavier that what's being used now?

Polyspan, a modern covering for traditionalists. Looking very much like the more transparent silkspan of 30-plus years ago. Polyspan is made of non-woven polyester fibers randomly intertwined, but with a definite grain running lengthwise along the sheet. It isn't as stiff as silkspan or tissue, but rather feels "floppier" and is soft and silky to the touch. Like silkspan and tissue, Polyspan is porous, and needs to be filled with dope. It's perhaps best described as a "paper" made with polyester fibers instead of wood fibers. But unlike paper, Polyspan is waterproof and doesn't absorb moisture. Which means it won't sag and change the airplane's trim on those dewy early morning flights or rainy day flying sessions.

And it is tough! Trying to tear it across the grain takes more force than you'll ever put on a model in normal use. It does tear more easily with the grain, but is still much stronger than silkspan, and probably even stronger than silk. Let's put it this way; if you dropped a quarter on it from two fee up, it'd bounce off. Yes, sharp objects will puncture it, but the polyester fibers will resist the puncture growing into a tear.

Polyspan is made in Germany, and imported by Sal Fruciano. A roll measures 12 feet by 20 inches, and sells for $15.00. Polyspan is available only in white, but can be colored by mixing dye into clear dope and spraying it on. (The old method of dyeing in colored water before covering doesn't work because Polyspan is waterproof.) Starline by FAI Model Supply sells 2 oz. concentrate dyes in red, yellow, blue, orange and black, at $5.50 per-ounce bottle, which will dye a lot of dope at the recommended one-to-ten ratio. Polyspan can also be painted with opaque dope, of course, or with other compatible paints once it's been sealed with a few coats of nitrate dope.

Okay, how heavy is it? I weighed one-square-foot samples on my balance scale (which I'm sure is accurate, but even if not produces usable relative weight comparisons). Polyspan weighs 2.25 grams per square foot, Japanese tissue ("Esaki" white, from Oldtimer Model Supply) weighs 1.125 grams per square foot. Thus, Polyspan is twice the weight of silkspan, and slightly more than twice the weight of Japanese tissue.

But raw weight doesn't mean much since these coverings require dope to seal them, and Polyspan is said to need only two coats of 50-50 thinned nitrate to fill it. So I made a 12 x 12-inch balsa frame, and doped the Polyspan to it. Then I thinned Sig nitrate clear dope 50-50 by volume could result in a more full-bodied material, requiring fewer coats.) Two coats began to produce a gloss, and filled most of the grain, but there were still a few small pinholes that could be seen when I held the panel up to the light. It took five coats to completely fill all the pinholes, and by then the surface had become attractively glossy. Obviously, applying many coats to the entire surface just in order to fill the pinholes is overkill, and were I covering a glider or rubber-powered model I would consider two or three coats sufficient (maybe dabbing a little more on the pinholes), especially since the dope isn't needed to make the covering moisture proof.

I then removed the Polyspan from the frame and replaced it with a sheet of silkspan. Painting silkspan is like painting a blotter, and the first couple of costs used a lot of dope as it soaked in. By the time the silkspan was sealed and the surface no longer fuzzy, I had applied six coats.

Lastly, I repeated the procedure with a panel of tissue, which required three coats to fully seal it.

After allowing 48 hours drying time, I weighed each panel. The Polyspan weighed 3.6 grams, the silkspan also weighed 3.6 grams, and the tissue weighed 1.8 grams. In short, Polyspan ends up having the same finished weight as silkspan, but with much more strength, moisture resistance, and longevity. Yes, it's twice the weight of Japanese tissue, which is still my choice for small, light rubber models, but Polyspan is perfect for larger, heavier freeflight, control line, and R/C models.

Friday, January 24, 2020

Polyspan and Spunbonded Polypropylene From Mike Myers. 

Rudy Hewert asked: Gents; In following this discussion, I am getting somewhat confused by the names of the vari- ous products. Anyone know who actually makes "Polyspan Lite"? Polyspan, Polyspan Light (sold by Larry Davidson and maybe Mike Woodhouse), Salzer Tissue, and SAMSpan (polyspan sold by SAM 27 in Northern California) are all vari- ants of the same thing - spunbonded polypropylene. It is an industrial product and it's made by a lot of people. (In my old work life I was a lawyer who helped form a joint venture and gave ongoing business legal advice to a world scale polypropylene plant that was built in Southern California.)

Here's what Dupont has to say about "Spunbond Polypropylene": DuPontTM Spunbond Polypropylene is a non-woven fabric composed of thermally bonded, continuous polypropylene filaments. The structure gives it good filtration properties and tensile strength even in diagonal direction. In addition, it is made of 100% polypropylene, which makes it resistant to moisture and chemical attack. It is a unique composite media that combines polymer technol- ogy with DuPont nonwoven manufacturing expertise. The polypropylene based material is an exceptionally strong yet light, pleatable material with excellent drainage and permeability properties. It is manufactured by a unique inte- grated process in which continuous filaments of polypropylene are spun and then immediately formed into a multi- directional arranged web that is heatbonded at filament crossover points.

Polypropylene comes out of the reactor in the polypropylene plant as a white plastic pellet about the size of large rock salt. It's then shipped to fabricators. Fabricators melt that plastic pellet and do lots of different things with it by running it through extruders, moulding machines etc. It shows up in plastic deck chairs, flower pots, medical trays, in a clear film wrapping cigarette packs and CD's - and in various "spunbond" forms. That spunbonded polypro- pylene is a fabric. It's made in as many different weights as there are manufacturers and end users. We sold a lot of it to people who made disposable diapers. It gets rolled up and used in filters - cigarette filters, water fil- ters, automobile oil filters, for all I know. It also gets used in sheathing or interlining or facing material that you can buy at your local fabric store. In thicker fabric weights it gets used to make disposable lab coats, Hazmat suits etc.

The manufacturers have large capital investments in these machines - one of our customers was making clear film in China. He had the film coming off the machine at about 2,500 fpm - or close to 30 miles per hour in a roll that was 10 feet wide. You'll note on Mike Woodhouse's earlier post that when he got some light polyspan from a manufac- turer in Austria, he had to buy a 2.5 kilometre long roll of the stuff.
Since spunbonded polypropylene is a plastic, it doesn't react to water - and so doesn't shrink when you spray it. It does react to heat, so you can shrink it or set a different warp in a wing through use of a heat gun. And because it doesn't react to water, it doesn't sag on a damp morning.

For our modelling purposes, we want it in the relatively lighter weights. You can buy "Polyspan" from the usual sup- pliers - Woodhouse, Davidson, some of the local hobby dealers and cottage industry people. That stuff is all good, and a lot of us use the material in just a single coat with nothing but dope.
But if you can't find a polyspan supplier and you're in a pinch you can go to the local fabric store (they still have a few of those around) and look for dress interlining or interfacing. That material is spunbonded polypropylene. The sewing and tailoring folk use this stuff to thicken up colours, cuffs, coat lapels etc. It comes in white - any colour you want, so long as it is white because after all it's going to disappear inside the finished article of clothing.

It comes in several different weights so you need to look around. The lightest stuff is probably not useful, so go for the medium or heavier weights. Most of the stuff that I've seen is light - a bit lighter than Larry Davidson's "Light Polyspan", and would take a lot of dope to fill. But if you are going to double cover with tissue or silk over the material, then there's a lot to be said for it. The polypropylene fibres run in all directions and are bound to each other by heat - so you add tremendous tensile strength to whatever you already have in the tissue or silk where the fibres tend to run at right angles to each other.
As long as you're down at the dress or fabric shop, you might also look at the coloured dress sheathing material. A lot of this stuff is made from polypropylene or other plastics. I covered a Peerless Panther in red and silver grey dress sheathing in the late '80s, and flew it with a Mills 1.3. The red and grey was heavier than silk, but it was hell for stout and that was just fine for a sport model. Unlike silk the colours never seemed to fade much in the sun.

You have to be careful with the coloured dress sheathing when you put it on, because it doesn't shrink with water, or much with tautening dope for that matter. It does shrink with heat. I still have some of it - as I recall it was like $3 a running yard of material that was 50 inches wide - when I was paying $10 a square yard for Esaki silk. Cheap is good!

Saturday, September 13, 2008

Working with Light Polyspan


LIGHT POLYSPAN

6’ x 39” $13.00


THERE IS A GLOSSY AND LESS GLOSSY SIDE. THE SMOOTH GLOSSY SIDE IS THE OUTSIDE (UP). Run grain spanwise!


APPLY AS YOU WOULD FOR SILKSPAN BY PREDOPING THE PERIMETER WITH TWO COATS OF DOPE AND MORE COATS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE RIBS IF THE WING IS UNDERCAMBERED. LIGHTLY SAND THE DOPED AREAS.

CUT THE MATERIAL OVERSIZE, PARTICULARLY AT AN ELLIPTICAL SHAPED TIP, ETC.

APPLY BY DOPING THRU THE MATERIAL. I NORMALLY USE THE MAIN SPARS FOR FIRST ATTACHING IT, THEN DOPE THE LEADING OR TRAILING EDGE. NEXT, PULL ANY EXCESS MATERIAL OUT. IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE TIGHT AT THIS TIME. DOPE EACH UNDERCAMBERED BOTTOM RIB AND RUB DOPE THRU THE POLYSPAN, ADHERING IT TO THE RIBS .

CUT THE EXCESS AROUND THE PERIMETER SO YOU WILL HAVE AN OVERLAP OF ABOUT 1/8”.

USING A MONOKOTE TYPE IRON, ROLL THE EDGES TO HELP THE MATERIAL FOLLOW THE CONTOUR. THEN DOPE IT DOWN AND RUB THE DOPE IN.

DO THE SAME FOR THE TOP ON THE WING. WHEN DOING AN ELLIPTICAL TIP, TACK DOPE SEVERAL SPOTS ALONG THE TOP AS YOU WOULD FOR MONOKOTE. ADD WEIGHT OR HAVE SOMEONE ELSE HOLD THE WING. THEN WHILE PULLING ON THE EXCESS WRINKLE AND HOLDING IT OFF THE SURFACE OF THE WING, HEAT IT WITH THE IRON AND IT WILL STRETCH--AND THEN PUSHING IT DOWN WITH THE IRON, IT WILL CONFORM TO THE CONTOUR.

THEN DOPE AND TRIM THE EXCESS.

THE DOPE WILL SHRINK THE MATERIAL BUT I USE THE IRON TO TAKE OUT ALL THE WRINKLES BEFORE DOPING IT.

PUT TWO TO FOUR COATS OF DOPE, PREFERABLY BRUSHED ON With A Foam Brush!, Thinned about 50%. (DON’T THIN TOO MUCH FOR THE FIRST TWO COATS) THEN IF YOU WANT COLOR, USE THE POLYSPAN DYE, MIXED 1 PART DYE, 1 PART CLEAR BUTYRATE DOPE AND TEN PARTS BUTYRATE THINNER AND SPRAY THIS ON.

(NITRATE DOPE AND THINNER DOES NOT MIX WELL WITH THE POLYSPAN DYE) USE PARKS OR SUNNYSIDE EPOXY & LACQUER THINNER FOR NITRATE DOPE, AVAILABLE AT HOME DEPOT AND TRU-VALUE

SPRAY ON A SEALING COAT OF DOPE. JAPANESE TISSUE OR COLORED DOPE CAN NOW BE APPLIED FOR TRIM IF DESIRED. THEN I BRUSH ON AS MANY COATS OF DOPE TO GET THE GLOSS I WANT (USUALLY 6-7 COATS) TOTAL.

APPLY FUEL PROOFER IF NITRO FUELS ARE GOING TO BE USED.

I SELL THE DYE. SEE MY LIST, SASE OR EMAIL ME FOR IT: samchamp@jetbroadband.com

Larry Davidson

More Polyspan covering techniques are taught by Dave Platt in his B2B (Back to Basics video)www.daveplattmodels.com/Video/index.htm

Monday, March 23, 2009

Latest from Larry Davidson

Civy Boy 66 for Nos Gas. O.S. .29 MAX III from Gene Wallock's plans



Contact info and latest product list below: Larry Davidson
66 Casa Mia Circle
Moneta, VA 24121-5307
(540) 721-4563
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____NEW! Coils, light and small, 30 grams. 2.4 to 3.6 Volt @ $ 25.00

____NEW! Solid State Ignition Unit, #SSIGN W/Instructions @ $20.00

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____High Tension Leads with 10K resistor & Clips (HTRC) For R/C @ $ 6.00

____ Hi Tension Leads (No Resistor) (HTFF) Free Flight & U-Control @ $ 4.50

____3/8” Rubber Bands for DT (Bag of 100) @ $ 1.00

____Plastic Fittings for Pacifier type Pressure use @ $ .70

____Surgical Tubing For Pressure (3/16” X 1/32” Wall) 2- 1 Foot pcs. $ 2.00

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____Surgical Fuel Line Tubing (1/16” X 1/32”Wall) for pinch off timers 10 ft. 6.00

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____Polyspan Covering Material NEW SIZE AND LOWER PRICES!!!!
NOW 39” WIDE X 10’ LONG $15.00

____NEW! Polyspan lite Approx 15 Grams/per Sq. Meter, 39” X 72” @ $13.00

____Polyspan Instructional Video (40 Minutes) @ $ 20.00

____ Polyspan Dye ( Can Be Used for Most Coverings Too!) 2 Oz. Bottle @ $ 6.50
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____ K&S Silk. *White, Royal Blue & Orange * Sq. Yd. $14.50
*(White Silk is 36 X 45”)

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Friday, August 29, 2008

Jap Tissue over Polyspan technique


Cover with Polyspan, shrink and apply 2 coats of dope.
Sand with 600 wet/dry paper to eliminate fur.

Attach tissue like the Polyspan wasn't there.
Use Acetone through the tissue and activate the dope on the Polyspan. Be very careful not to spread it all over.
Water shrink the tissue and let it thoroughly dry.
Brush on a light coat of Acetone to attach the shrunk tissue to the doped Polyspan.
Use a Monocoat iron to eliminate any wrinkles.
Apply two coats of thin dope and re-check for wrinkles. Add a third coat of thin dope to finalize.
If you just want to add tissue letters, just tack them down with Acetone. If they're smooth, apply a light coat of Acetone and use the iron to eliminate wrinkles.

Thermals,
GOD Bless America


Gene Wallock

Thursday, December 11, 2008

Checkerboard Tissue Information from Bucky Walter

Tom Ryan gave me a presents of 12 sheets of checkerboard tissue. I do not know where he purchased the tissue or the cost per sheet. The tissue was made in Gifu, Japan by the Esaki Model Meg. Co., Inc. Shorty’s Basement is selling Esaki Checkerboard Tissue for $3.50 a sheet. Shorty’s Basement can be found on the Internet at Shorty’s Basement.com.

I am covering a Rambler Free Flight model at this time, so I decided to use a sheet of blue and white checkerboard tissue to cover the rudder. The Rambler is covered with Polyspan. My method for applying tissue on Polyspan which has two coats of thin nitrate dope applied is as follows:

Iron the tissue to remove wrinkles.
Carefully lay the tissue on the Polyspan.
Spray with water.
Use a foam brush and carefully brush out any wrinkles.
Use the same foam brush and apply a coat of dope over the wet tissue. Some slight wrinkles can be smoothed out with your finger.
Let the tissue dry.
Apply as many coats of dope that you desire.

Covering the rudder with the checkerboard tissue I did not have to iron the tissue, it was wrinkle free. It also has a shinny side; Gene Wallock and I decided it had a sealer coat of something applied. I proceeded using steps 2 through 5. I was not too happy. There were many small wrinkles. I was afraid to try to brush the wrinkles smooth. After the tissue dried it was very difficult to see the small wrinkles. So I doped the covering a few times. It looked pretty good. I think all the squares confuse your eyesight and makes looking for wrinkles a little difficult.

I decided to talk with Gene Wallock about my covering method. Gene told me he uses acetone to attached the tissue around the edges, spray with water and let dry, then apply the dope. Gene’s method is a better method, except for using acetone to attach the tissue. I tested a scrap piece of checkerboard tissue with acetone. The acetone did not smear the shinny side of the tissue. When I lifted the tissue up off the surface, the blue was beginning to smear. So if you tried to move the tissue to reposition it was going to be very messy.

This method works.

Use a glue stick around the edges. I use an Avery Permanent Glue Stick – white color.
Carefully lay tissue on the Polyspan and press the tissue on the applied glue. You can lift the tissue up and reposition it, if required.
Spray with water.
Let dry.
Dope the tissue as required, I use a foam brush.


UPDATE
Hi Guys,
A few months ago I brushed clear nitrate dope over checkerboard tissue and had it smear a little. I brushed very lightly. But it did smear.
Since then Tom Ryan was informed that if you put the shinny side down against the frame work, then you can brush the dope on the tissue and it will not smear. Reported in SAM35 Speaks
I just used that procedure and the checkerboard tissue did not smear!
Yeah!!
I told Tom about my problem. He put it on his blob page and he got a correct reply to the problem.
Computers can solve a problem or two. That is, if you know how to use a computer.
Bucky

I should add that the checkerboard tissue from Peck Polymers was of two type: Black & Yellow and everything else.
The former appears to have started as dyed yellow tissue with black squares then dyed into it. The others look as thought they started as one color and then had shiny square painted on. Bucky has not tried the yellow & black yet.





Saturday, August 2, 2008

Latest from Bucky Walter





Hi Guys,
Latest effort - Super Phoenix - modified with a two wheel landing gear instead of a one wheel landing gear. Makes it easier to start the engine.
I made a political statement by placing the American Flag on the rudder. One guy running for the President of the United States just had the American Flag removed from the fin of his private jet. Enough Said!
The model is covered with polyspan. I used a glue stick that kids use for sticking paper together for applying the polyspan on the bare balsa frame Used nitrate dope and trimmed with red and black Jap tissue.
I still have to add some decals and my name to the model. Also the biggie - run the engine in the model. I still have to weigh the model. Would you believe it balances right on the CG.
With the two wheel landing gear the model resembles a Kerswap. As we all know Gil Morris designed the Kerswap.
Bucky








Saturday, July 10, 2010

Update on Tandy Walker's Speed 400 Cleveland Cloudster


On May 3, 2010, I had a fly away on the third test flight of my new 300 sq. in. electric Cloudster. Which prompted the purchase of a Walston Retrieval System.

On May 11, 2010, the lost Cloudster was found in the back yard of an Arlington home eight days later after two rain storms.

It had suffered rather extensive damage.
I decided to jump back in and build another 300 sq. in. Cloudster for the Speed 400 event! It was too good of a flyer for me not to have one for this year's SAM Champs, if it could be built quickly. I concluded that I could build a second one in a much shorter time using what components I could salvage and my own construction reports as a guide.
The right wing panel was missing and the center section was badly damaged, but the main plywood spar brace was in tact.
A completely new right wing panel was built.
The new wing panel was integrated into the salvaged wing structure.

A complete wing structure emerged.
The wing structure was covered with transparent red UltraCote Lite.

The color scheme and trim were duplicated and the exact same Cajun graphics were applied to the wing.
When the vertical tail covering was cleaned off, it was discovered that the tip of the fin had received a moderate blow to the top edge, leaving the silk covering on one side of the tip wood a little wrinkled. Distilled water was injected into the crushed balsa through the covering with the syringe and a little heat was applied to the area, which expanded the damp balsa underneath and tightened up the silk covering.

The elevator control surface has been subjected to exposure and over stressing, which had significantly wrinkled the covering.

It was necessary to remove all of the covering from both the elevator and stab so each joint could be inspected and reglued as necessary. Discolored wood from water damage was bleached out with household bleach. The elevator and stab were recovered with transparent red UltraCote Lite.

The fuselage was so damaged that it was not salvageable so a new one had to be built. To add a little weight and reduce ballast, I used heavier 3/16" balsa strips in the fuselages primary structure.
To save time an aluminum motor mount was used. This aluminum motor mount for the Speed 400 motor was machined by a guy named "Loren Kramer".
The main landing gear was salvaged with a little straightening and rust removal.
Because of all of the water damage, two new servos along with new receiver, ESC, battery, and motor were purchased.

2.4 GHz antenna guides and push rods were installed.

Balsa blocks were glued together to form the blank for the new cowl.

The new cowl was carved and sanded to final shape.
The fuselage and cowl were double covered with white silk over Polyspan Lite and given seven coats of clear nitrate dope.

The fuselage and cowl were double covered with white silk over Polyspan Lite and given seven coats of clear nitrate dope.

The fuselage and cowl were given one thin air brushed coat of clear satin Klass Kote.


The covering was cut out to form the four side window openings.


The windshield and side windows of 0.005" clear Dura-Lar were installed.

Red striping tape was used to seal the bottom of the windshield as well as trim the side windows.

This second Cloudster was finished this morning, 64 days after the decision to build a new one.

The Cloudster's balance point is at 48.7% as per the Jim Adam's plan and the total weight is 16.05 ounces................Tandy

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Bucky's Latest Project IV



Hi Tom,

Finally completed the 1/2 A Texaco
Lanzo R/C Cabin Stick.
It weighs 16 ounces with the tracker transmitter installed.
Wing area is 288 square inches or 2 square feet.
It is covered with Polyspan and trimmed with Jap tissue and silkspan.
I doped 2 coats of 50% nitrate dope and 50% thinner, follow with five coats of butyrate 50 - 50 thinner.
Due to the high humidity the doped blushed.
Gene Wallock told me to use 50% retarder and 50% dope to slow down the drying.
It worked!
Hope to fly it soon.

Bucky